1 00:00:06,630 --> 00:00:04,630 earth cam is a nasa educational program 2 00:00:08,790 --> 00:00:06,640 in which middle school and college 3 00:00:11,110 --> 00:00:08,800 students don't just hear about a mission 4 00:00:13,350 --> 00:00:11,120 in space they participate in it by 5 00:00:15,910 --> 00:00:13,360 controlling a camera to photograph 6 00:00:18,230 --> 00:00:15,920 targets on earth the investigation is 7 00:00:21,510 --> 00:00:18,240 the brainchild of former astronaut sally 8 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:21,520 ride and the payload developer brian awe 9 00:00:25,189 --> 00:00:23,199 is here this morning to talk about the 10 00:00:27,349 --> 00:00:25,199 project how did you get involved with 11 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:27,359 with earthcam right 12 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:30,720 i was working at an engineering firm and 13 00:00:35,670 --> 00:00:33,760 one of my supervisors approached me 14 00:00:38,630 --> 00:00:35,680 realizing that i had a background in 15 00:00:39,910 --> 00:00:38,640 camera and digital photography 16 00:00:42,630 --> 00:00:39,920 and asked if i would take over the 17 00:00:45,030 --> 00:00:42,640 project as a payload developer 18 00:00:47,110 --> 00:00:45,040 it was after a 24-year career in the air 19 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:47,120 force and then they fortunately provided 20 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:48,399 me with the school and the the 21 00:00:53,029 --> 00:00:51,280 engineering skills uh necessary to to 22 00:00:55,189 --> 00:00:53,039 take over as the the payload developer 23 00:00:58,630 --> 00:00:55,199 for earth cam so it's it's been a nice 24 00:01:00,470 --> 00:00:58,640 11 years it's been at for that long yes 25 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:00,480 we have a lot of ways to take pictures 26 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:03,280 of earth from the space station and 27 00:01:06,950 --> 00:01:05,600 from other things that are in orbit 28 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:06,960 what is it about 29 00:01:12,550 --> 00:01:09,600 the earth cam that makes this so unique 30 00:01:14,870 --> 00:01:12,560 this is is a payload by students for 31 00:01:17,670 --> 00:01:14,880 students uh the the neatest thing about 32 00:01:19,990 --> 00:01:17,680 this is the students literally have 33 00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:20,000 direct control over the camera 34 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:21,840 on board the iss 35 00:01:25,510 --> 00:01:23,200 it's not a 36 00:01:27,749 --> 00:01:25,520 the images are not a 37 00:01:29,590 --> 00:01:27,759 result of somebody else's research 38 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:29,600 these are images that the students have 39 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:31,600 actually targeted 40 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:35,040 via web page tools that ucsd provides 41 00:01:38,310 --> 00:01:36,000 and 42 00:01:40,149 --> 00:01:38,320 they get these images down on the ground 43 00:01:42,310 --> 00:01:40,159 and then tear them apart and study them 44 00:01:45,109 --> 00:01:42,320 so that it's a really neat process you 45 00:01:47,749 --> 00:01:45,119 know by students for students ucsd is 46 00:01:49,190 --> 00:01:47,759 university of california and san diego 47 00:01:50,710 --> 00:01:49,200 um they're 48 00:01:52,630 --> 00:01:50,720 that's this is where that experiment 49 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:52,640 this experiment comes from take us 50 00:01:58,230 --> 00:01:55,759 through it how do these students 51 00:01:59,350 --> 00:01:58,240 as you said do this study and tear it 52 00:02:01,030 --> 00:01:59,360 down just 53 00:02:03,429 --> 00:02:01,040 how how let's start with how those 54 00:02:05,270 --> 00:02:03,439 students are chosen to participate um 55 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:05,280 it's they're really not chosen it's a 56 00:02:09,990 --> 00:02:08,640 teacher's election to utilize the the 57 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:10,000 earthkam 58 00:02:15,589 --> 00:02:13,520 program as a as an aide to 59 00:02:17,510 --> 00:02:15,599 classroom studies we provide an 60 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:17,520 opportunity by having the camera on 61 00:02:20,949 --> 00:02:19,280 board and available to the students for 62 00:02:22,710 --> 00:02:20,959 the week-long sessions 63 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:22,720 we typically do this four times during 64 00:02:27,750 --> 00:02:25,599 the year and when the teacher elects to 65 00:02:29,270 --> 00:02:27,760 use earthkam to enhance the classroom 66 00:02:30,869 --> 00:02:29,280 activities 67 00:02:33,270 --> 00:02:30,879 some teachers actually have a 68 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:33,280 competition to select the students 69 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:36,640 others form the students into teams and 70 00:02:40,309 --> 00:02:37,760 have them 71 00:02:42,390 --> 00:02:40,319 work towards satisfying a research goal 72 00:02:43,270 --> 00:02:42,400 they give them a project that they have 73 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:43,280 to go 74 00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:45,840 search out images that that they're able 75 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:47,920 to capture during the mission 76 00:02:52,309 --> 00:02:50,480 and then use those images to 77 00:02:53,190 --> 00:02:52,319 back up 78 00:02:57,509 --> 00:02:53,200 a 79 00:02:59,910 --> 00:02:57,519 complete the project 80 00:03:01,670 --> 00:02:59,920 so it's and it's completely dependent 81 00:03:03,190 --> 00:03:01,680 upon the teacher 82 00:03:04,390 --> 00:03:03,200 we here at johnson 83 00:03:06,949 --> 00:03:04,400 and at 84 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:06,959 ucsd california san diego provide the 85 00:03:10,630 --> 00:03:09,599 opportunity for the teachers to do this 86 00:03:12,470 --> 00:03:10,640 there must 87 00:03:14,949 --> 00:03:12,480 once the students are selected there is 88 00:03:17,430 --> 00:03:14,959 background work that they have to do 89 00:03:19,270 --> 00:03:17,440 to decide what they want to shoot if you 90 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:19,280 will that's correct yeah 91 00:03:22,229 --> 00:03:20,480 based on the project that they're 92 00:03:24,149 --> 00:03:22,239 assigned 93 00:03:25,910 --> 00:03:24,159 the students can go to the web pages 94 00:03:29,190 --> 00:03:25,920 that we 95 00:03:31,190 --> 00:03:29,200 provide via the earth cam web page 96 00:03:32,949 --> 00:03:31,200 and determine where the iss is going to 97 00:03:34,070 --> 00:03:32,959 be flying overhead 98 00:03:35,830 --> 00:03:34,080 and 99 00:03:38,149 --> 00:03:35,840 search for targets that will satisfy 100 00:03:40,550 --> 00:03:38,159 their research requirement 101 00:03:42,390 --> 00:03:40,560 when they do that they then submit an 102 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:42,400 image request 103 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:44,000 to the university of california san 104 00:03:48,550 --> 00:03:46,000 diego in the the mock the mission 105 00:03:50,390 --> 00:03:48,560 operations center that they staff there 106 00:03:52,070 --> 00:03:50,400 we resolve the and that's staffed by 107 00:03:54,949 --> 00:03:52,080 college students correct undergrad 108 00:03:58,710 --> 00:03:54,959 students at the university 109 00:03:59,990 --> 00:03:58,720 they resolve any issues and with within 110 00:04:02,229 --> 00:04:00,000 literally all of the schools 111 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:02,239 participating around the world 112 00:04:05,270 --> 00:04:03,519 and then they create what we call a 113 00:04:07,750 --> 00:04:05,280 camera control file 114 00:04:10,630 --> 00:04:07,760 that file then comes to us here at 115 00:04:12,869 --> 00:04:10,640 johnson space center by assets we have 116 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:12,879 we uplink that to a 117 00:04:18,390 --> 00:04:15,439 laptop that is controlling the camera 118 00:04:20,310 --> 00:04:18,400 and it is a queue of times 119 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:20,320 that tells the camera to take a picture 120 00:04:24,629 --> 00:04:22,800 as the space station passes over that 121 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:24,639 point on the earth 122 00:04:27,749 --> 00:04:25,840 all of that 123 00:04:31,510 --> 00:04:27,759 work is accomplished at 124 00:04:33,749 --> 00:04:31,520 ucsd and in return the software that's 125 00:04:36,230 --> 00:04:33,759 operating on that laptop that quote 126 00:04:37,510 --> 00:04:36,240 makes earth camp will pull that image 127 00:04:39,350 --> 00:04:37,520 from 128 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:39,360 the camera puts it in the folder we 129 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:42,000 downlink that it gets post-processed a 130 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:45,280 bit out at jpl we've got an individual 131 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:47,120 out there who handles 132 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:50,800 the imagery we contrast enhance it 133 00:04:53,749 --> 00:04:52,400 and then we post it to the website so 134 00:04:54,950 --> 00:04:53,759 the students can get access to their 135 00:04:56,790 --> 00:04:54,960 picture and then it's open to the 136 00:04:58,870 --> 00:04:56,800 general public also 137 00:05:00,950 --> 00:04:58,880 the students the middle school students 138 00:05:02,790 --> 00:05:00,960 are the ones who come up with the time 139 00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:02,800 that gets sent to the camera to say when 140 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:04,560 to take the picture 141 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:05,840 they have to do 142 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:08,000 a lawful lot of different kinds of study 143 00:05:11,189 --> 00:05:10,400 to know what's the right time yes they 144 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:11,199 do 145 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:13,120 it starts off with a basic understanding 146 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:16,320 of the globe latitude longitude 147 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:18,400 and then they have to 148 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:20,720 reduce the project that the teacher has 149 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:22,880 assigned them into to 150 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:25,440 latitude longitudes of potential targets 151 00:05:30,469 --> 00:05:27,600 then they go investigate where the space 152 00:05:33,189 --> 00:05:30,479 station is flying see if they can't 153 00:05:35,510 --> 00:05:33,199 image or target 154 00:05:37,189 --> 00:05:35,520 specific shots along the orbit track of 155 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:37,199 the iss 156 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:38,880 and then they they have to understand a 157 00:05:43,029 --> 00:05:41,680 little bit about trigonometry uh in 158 00:05:44,629 --> 00:05:43,039 geography 159 00:05:47,909 --> 00:05:44,639 in order to pull the whole package 160 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:47,919 together so yeah it's it's a driver for 161 00:05:52,150 --> 00:05:50,400 showing real-time involvement into many 162 00:05:54,790 --> 00:05:52,160 different disciplines of science and 163 00:05:56,950 --> 00:05:54,800 math it's one thing to do a lot of study 164 00:05:58,870 --> 00:05:56,960 ahead of time to be able to predict the 165 00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:58,880 right time where the station's going to 166 00:06:02,629 --> 00:06:00,000 be 167 00:06:04,790 --> 00:06:02,639 after they send in that request how real 168 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:04,800 time are the operations do things change 169 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:07,440 on them oh yes oh yes we're in a real 170 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:08,880 world 171 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:10,720 we we have a camry that's operating on 172 00:06:14,870 --> 00:06:12,800 batteries 173 00:06:17,430 --> 00:06:14,880 occasionally toward the end of a battery 174 00:06:19,590 --> 00:06:17,440 or if it's it's been used a lot 175 00:06:21,670 --> 00:06:19,600 unfortunately we may miss a shot or two 176 00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:21,680 because the battery's gone dead and the 177 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:23,919 crew hasn't had the chance to 178 00:06:29,029 --> 00:06:26,000 change the battery out yet 179 00:06:30,950 --> 00:06:29,039 later this week we also have a russian 180 00:06:32,629 --> 00:06:30,960 thruster firing test 181 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:32,639 as a part of that we have to protect the 182 00:06:36,950 --> 00:06:34,319 window that we're looking out of the lab 183 00:06:39,749 --> 00:06:36,960 window is a very high quality scientific 184 00:06:42,150 --> 00:06:39,759 instrument if literally it's just a flat 185 00:06:43,749 --> 00:06:42,160 lens system so in order to protect it 186 00:06:45,990 --> 00:06:43,759 from getting 187 00:06:48,390 --> 00:06:46,000 obscured by the propellants we have to 188 00:06:50,550 --> 00:06:48,400 close the window shutter so again 189 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:50,560 we have to black out no pictures during 190 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:52,319 that time correct so yeah we play in the 191 00:06:55,830 --> 00:06:54,160 real world uh 192 00:06:57,110 --> 00:06:55,840 in making this payload work for the 193 00:06:58,950 --> 00:06:57,120 students 194 00:07:00,629 --> 00:06:58,960 the pictures you said there they come 195 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:00,639 down they're processed and then they're 196 00:07:04,629 --> 00:07:02,880 made available on the internet for 197 00:07:07,749 --> 00:07:04,639 everyone correct yes 198 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:07,759 since it's a a 199 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:10,080 when pally and when sally thought this 200 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:13,360 payload up uh she did a tremendous job 201 00:07:18,629 --> 00:07:16,240 in making sure that the resource wasn't 202 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:18,639 just confined to a small group it's it's 203 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:20,880 available to the general public 204 00:07:25,830 --> 00:07:22,720 and even several researchers actually 205 00:07:28,390 --> 00:07:25,840 use earthkam images as context photos 206 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:28,400 for uh more in-depth knowledge in in 207 00:07:32,950 --> 00:07:30,800 their actual research 208 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:32,960 how many students have been involved in 209 00:07:40,790 --> 00:07:36,400 this for more than 11 years over 11 210 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:40,800 years uh we're over 190 000 students 211 00:07:45,830 --> 00:07:43,440 we we started keeping track of this 212 00:07:48,150 --> 00:07:45,840 as time went on and 213 00:07:50,950 --> 00:07:48,160 some of the earlier missions we had 214 00:07:53,589 --> 00:07:50,960 basically two or three hundred 215 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:53,599 now we're averaging over three to four 216 00:07:58,790 --> 00:07:56,400 thousand per week long mission so it's 217 00:08:01,189 --> 00:07:58,800 grown quite a bit we still have the 218 00:08:03,029 --> 00:08:01,199 capability to handle more students 219 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:03,039 uh the resources on board are not 220 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:06,080 stretched uh so that you know we we can 221 00:08:10,150 --> 00:08:08,400 accommodate taking more pictures but you 222 00:08:12,150 --> 00:08:10,160 said you're doing it four times a year 223 00:08:14,629 --> 00:08:12,160 for a week at a time a week at a time 224 00:08:16,869 --> 00:08:14,639 yes that leaves a lot more weeks 225 00:08:18,070 --> 00:08:16,879 well we also have undergrad students out 226 00:08:19,909 --> 00:08:18,080 at the university that have to 227 00:08:21,830 --> 00:08:19,919 concentrate on their classes also they 228 00:08:24,469 --> 00:08:21,840 volunteer for scholarship money when 229 00:08:26,869 --> 00:08:24,479 they work at the the earth camp mission 230 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:26,879 operations center so it's not a direct 231 00:08:30,869 --> 00:08:28,400 payment but they can offset their 232 00:08:32,550 --> 00:08:30,879 tuition costs somewhat by by working the 233 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:32,560 mission for the middle school students 234 00:08:36,389 --> 00:08:34,560 we're not these students who have 235 00:08:39,509 --> 00:08:36,399 participated are from schools all over 236 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:39,519 the world right yes uh we've had over 43 237 00:08:43,589 --> 00:08:42,000 countries involved with earth camp 238 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:43,599 several of them have operated for 239 00:08:47,269 --> 00:08:45,120 multiple times 240 00:08:48,949 --> 00:08:47,279 i think the total 241 00:08:51,590 --> 00:08:48,959 by the time you add them up we're well 242 00:08:54,070 --> 00:08:51,600 over 240 some countries that have 243 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:54,080 participated either once or multiple 244 00:08:58,949 --> 00:08:56,880 times yes how do you gauge the success 245 00:09:00,310 --> 00:08:58,959 is it it's not just that the picture's 246 00:09:02,470 --> 00:09:00,320 in focus is it 247 00:09:04,230 --> 00:09:02,480 um that's that's my job 248 00:09:06,310 --> 00:09:04,240 yeah i make sure that all the technical 249 00:09:08,710 --> 00:09:06,320 aspects are taken care of 250 00:09:11,269 --> 00:09:08,720 it's really nice i've gone to a few of 251 00:09:12,630 --> 00:09:11,279 the schools around here in the area 252 00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:12,640 after a mission actually during a 253 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:14,160 mission i was able to sneak out for a 254 00:09:19,190 --> 00:09:16,640 few hours and when you see the students 255 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:19,200 sitting down engaged in a mission it's 256 00:09:22,630 --> 00:09:21,120 like sitting here in mission control 257 00:09:25,110 --> 00:09:22,640 they are into 258 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:25,120 their task at hand making sure that that 259 00:09:28,710 --> 00:09:27,200 image that they're about to request is a 260 00:09:31,590 --> 00:09:28,720 valid one 261 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:31,600 and it's going to provide them a return 262 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:33,440 so that they can benefit through their 263 00:09:36,790 --> 00:09:35,519 studies yeah it's it's neat to see the 264 00:09:39,269 --> 00:09:36,800 kids just 265 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:39,279 engaged and when they do get a picture 266 00:09:43,190 --> 00:09:41,200 back they're very proud of it they can 267 00:09:45,750 --> 00:09:43,200 tell you what each pixel in that picture 268 00:09:48,070 --> 00:09:45,760 means and what it's representing so yes 269 00:09:50,710 --> 00:09:48,080 it's the the ownership 270 00:09:53,509 --> 00:09:50,720 of the images is probably the the 271 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:53,519 incalculable benefit from it all the 272 00:09:57,990 --> 00:09:55,440 students can actually say i took that 273 00:10:00,070 --> 00:09:58,000 picture it wasn't a the result of 274 00:10:02,630 --> 00:10:00,080 somebody else's research it was their 275 00:10:04,870 --> 00:10:02,640 target their image that they targeted 276 00:10:07,110 --> 00:10:04,880 that's what sally wright had in mind yes 277 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:07,120 yes she wanted to engage the students 278 00:10:11,829 --> 00:10:09,600 and she wanted to make it available for 279 00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:11,839 almost anybody all you have to do is 280 00:10:16,069 --> 00:10:13,760 have internet access 281 00:10:18,389 --> 00:10:16,079 we've got schools that are participating 282 00:10:21,030 --> 00:10:18,399 we call them education groups we've got 283 00:10:22,949 --> 00:10:21,040 schools we have scouting groups we have 284 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:22,959 home school children that actually 285 00:10:27,030 --> 00:10:24,800 participate 286 00:10:29,269 --> 00:10:27,040 so the outreach 287 00:10:32,150 --> 00:10:29,279 for using earth cam 288 00:10:34,389 --> 00:10:32,160 is is growing and we see nothing but 289 00:10:36,389 --> 00:10:34,399 getting bigger and better as as time 290 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:36,399 goes on and as you said anybody can look 291 00:10:40,710 --> 00:10:38,720 at the pictures what's the the internet 292 00:10:42,190 --> 00:10:40,720 address there's uh the internet address 293 00:10:49,430 --> 00:10:42,200 is 294 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:51,269 it's an education website okay now 295 00:10:55,590 --> 00:10:53,120 that's on the screen there for everyone 296 00:10:57,190 --> 00:10:55,600 to see brian thanks very much enjoy it 297 00:10:59,350 --> 00:10:57,200 thank you very much brian awe is the 298 00:11:01,509 --> 00:10:59,360 payload developer for the earth cam